wiki:HowtoTranslators

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How to make Translations in Elive

This document contains some important things to know in order to not have problems with your translations

Requirements

We have an own made tool that makes the translations very easy, try to run it from the Applications menu or pressing "Alt + Esc" in your desktop, its called eltrans.

If you don't have it installed, you can install it with the command apui eltrans

What can I translate ?

When you run the eltrans tool you can see all the applications of Elive that you can translate. You can also make translations for Enlightenment 17 but you can't send them in the automatized way, for that you need to send your generated translation via email (more instructions in eltrans)

Finally, if you want to translate for applications that are not listed (normally, Debian applications), you need to check how Debian does it, which is a different process.

If the element that you want to translate is not a part of Debian but a part of Elive and it is NOT available on eltrans, you need to request to support this element in eltrans too, for that, just create a new ticket requesting it (or better talk about this on the #elive-dev IRC channel)

Important things to Know

This is the important section :)

  • Fast commits: In order to avoid conflicts with the translations happening at the same time (for the same language and application to translate), it is a very good practice to send the translations from time to time, let's say every 30 minutes is a good option
    • If this happens, unless you have good developer knowledges (svn), will be easier to cleanup the actual work and download a new copy
    • To make it easier to avoid, it's also suggested to be connected at the Elive Chat when you are going to do translations, and ask if anybody else is doing them at the same time (for the same application and language)
    • If you want to continue your translations in another moment just send the actual made ones before to close eltrans or you could have a conflict in the next day, don't be scared to send them from time to time, our robots are not tired to work :)
  • Code: You are translating messages of a source code application, this means that it will contain strange things like:
    This is a C %s string
    This is a BASH $var variable
    This is another BASH ${var%%/*} type of variable
    This is a \n newline symbol (escape secuence to reprent an 'Enter')
    
    All these messages (and a lot others) are NOT errors, they are code, so do not change them, keep them just as they are, if not, the application will not work correctly showing the correct messages, specially the ones like %s. This is an example of a translation to Spanish for the first line: Esto es una C %s frase
  • Updated sentences: Also called fuzzy or represented as a cloud, this means that the message was auto-generated (automatic translations system) or that the original message was slightly modified, in other words it needs a simple revision/look-up, just a check if the translation is correct and equivalent to the original message, if it doesn't need any modifications click in the cloud icon in order to mark it as OK.
  • English original sentences: If the original sentences are modified, it will be needed to translate them again (that's because the sentence is a different one, of course), that's why is important to have as first instance the original sentences to be the best ones (as short as possible and easy to understand, clever and clear). You can also help on that by just selecting to translate to English (en) to improve the original sentences of the application, please make sure that the application automatically updated the next day or contact Thanatermesis to rebuild them.

Tips

English original sentences improvements: One of my best tips to write the most correct english sentences that is also the most correct way to phrase something is by using a trick with google translator, let me explain:

  • In the first box select English
  • In the second box select a common language that you know well, one that you know that their translations works pretty good, like Spanish
  • Just paste the sentence in the first box and modify it, you will see in realtime the translation to Spanish in the other window
  • If the automated translation looks coherent, your original sentence is well structured and made, but also the optimal one for the automated translations provided by Elive (if there's not a translator that corrects them)
  • As an extra bonus, if you translate later to Spanish, most of these sentences will be already made in the correct way, you just need to uncheck the fuzzy state to set it as valid one then.

Meanings If you don't know what is the meaning of a sentence you can check the source code of it, most of the elive translatable sentences are plain readable files (scripts), so a command like this can be pretty useful:

~ ❯❯❯ package="eltrans" ; sentence="Result null, please make a better choice" ;   for file in $( dpkg -L "$package" | grep -vE "/(locale|doc|var/cache)/" | grep -vE "(\.desktop)" ) ; do if test -f "$file" ; then grep -Hn "$sentence" "$file" ; fi ; done
/usr/bin/eltrans:74:        $guitool --error --text="$( eval_gettext "Result null, please make a better choice" )"

Where you write the "package" and "sentence" variables (or keywords) and it will print on which files are found if any, so you can edit the file on that line and see to what references the source code actions

Control

If you want to have more control to the translations, check [HowtoSVN how to use SVN] to understand how it works internally. You can also check the timeline where you can watch the new commits by the other translators in a nice and visually way, you can also have a RSS system in the timeline so that you can watch every commit in your News reader, to which language, and from who, like:

Eltrans: auto-sent for |liveboot| in -|es|- by 'Thanatermesis'

You can also check for older versions of the translations since they are saved in the history, that's called svn revisions

  • Example: Imagine that someone has sent a wrong translation and has then broken yours, so just browse the versions going back in the history looking oldest versions, get the desired one, and merge it (its recommended to use the tool meld) in the actual updated version (how to use SVN: HowtoSVN) and send it again
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